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Sir Robert Swynborne - b. 1327 - d. 14??

Also known as Swinbourne and Swinburne

The Medieval period of Belchamp Walter's history is somewhat confusing as the "control" of the manor was complicated by the passing of the line of inheritance between many families both local and nationally. The Swynborne family is one such family.

Thomas Wright reports the marriage between Joan Gernon and John Botetourt.
The Visitations of Essex, 16th and 17th Centuries, show the marriage between the Swynbornes and Botetourts.
The family tree also shows the connection to the Fynderne family. See also here.

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The crests above were found on the Wikitree website and the spelling is different. However, the dates of the heraldry is contemporary with that of Botetourt and Gernon , so the one on the right may be that of Sir Robert Swynbourne. The family tree, below, also has an alternate spelling.

Robert Swinbourne was associated with Belchamp Walter in the reign of Edward II and Richard II.

What Thomas Wright said:

The "He" below is Sir John Botetourt the younger

" He married Joan, daughter and co-heiress of John Gernon, of the family of Stansted Montfitchet, whose only daughter was named after her mother; she was a very rich heiress, conveying the large possessions of the Botetourts and Gernons to her husband, Sir Robert Swynborne, of Little Horksley."

"Her" in the following is presumably Joan Gernon -

" According to her epitaph in this church (Little Horkesley), she died in 1400, but this is supposed to be an erroneous statement, as the year 1433 is mentioned in the inquisitions as the time of her decease. "

It has to be noted that when Thomas Wright wrote this (1831/36) the Church at Little Horkesley was still intact. The Church was leveled by a parachute bomb in 1940 and most of the memorials were probably destroyed. The remaining memorials do give a clue to the connections to Belchamp Walter in the 15th century. The brasses of Sir Robert Swynbourne and Thomas Fynderne can be seen today.

This page is part of an on-going research project on the history of Belchamp Walter and the manor of Belchamp Walter. If you have found it making a web search looking for geneological or other information on the village then please bookmark this page and return often as I am likely to make regular updates. If you delve deeper into this website you will find many other pages similar to this one.

Sir William Fynderne and John Helion

Again Thomas Wright:

" She bore to Sir Robert five sons, who all died without issue, and two daughters, Alice and Margery; the latter married to Nicholas Berners, of Aberden Hall, in Debden, and Codham Hall, in Wethersfield, whose daughter Catharine was wife of Sir William Fynderne; but this estate was the inheritance of Alice, the eldest daughter, married to John Helion, Esq. of Bumsted Helion. "

The Family tree from The visitations of Essex by Hawley, 1552; Hervey, 1558; Cooke, 1570; Raven, 1612; and Owen and Lilly, 1634.

The marriage of Sir Robert Swynbourne to Johanna Botetourt (date 14 something)
Note also the alternate spelling of Gernon (Garnon)

The marriage of Margerium Swynbourne (daughter of Johanna Botetourt) to Nicholas Barneys (of Finchingfield).
The marriage of Katheren (Barneys) to Thomas Fynderne.
Many cross-references to Helion, Tirell, Wentworth (Codham Hall, Gosfiled) and Golding (Belchamp St. Paul's)

The family name Barneys is not mentioned by Thomas Wright with respect to Finchingfield. The name is similar to Berners (mentioned with respect to Gestingthorpe and Aberden Hall)

History of Parliament - reformated for readability

Swinburne’s second marriage brought him more permanent benefits and consolidated his landed interests in Essex, where he chose to spend most of his active life.
The families of Swinburne and Boutourt had long been connected, and as early as 1361 Swinburne was recorded in association with his future wife’s grandfathers, Sir John Boutourt and Sir John Gernoun.

By 1373 she, Joan, had inherited the Boutourt manors of Gosfield, Belchamp Walter and Gestingthorpe, while those of Belchamp Orton and Ovington were to fall to her later, on the death of her grandfather’s widow. Even more substantial estates were to accrue to the Swinburnes when Gernoun died in 1384, for Joan was his coheir (with her aunt Margaret, wife of Sir John Peyton), and her share included Bakewell in Derbyshire, Rippingale and two other manors in Lincolnshire, Weston Colville in Cambridgeshire, ‘Gernones’ and lands at Fordham, Bergholt and elsewhere in Essex, and an interest in the advowson of Benefield, Northamptonshire.

In 1412 the properties pertaining to Joan’s inheritance in Cambridgeshire were said to have an annual worth £20, those in Derbyshire of Essex £40, but these were all clearly undervalued and no assessments have survived for her holdings in other counties. (footnote 4)

It must suffice to say that Swinburne’s second marriage made him a wealthy man. And to these widespread estates he added yet more: Duxford (Cambridgeshire) came to him from his uncle, Sir Adam Swinburne, and East Mersea and Harborough in Messing (Essex) were purchased in 1386.

More research:

jmc4 - Church Explorer - a search for "Hyllivyn" as in John Helion (my research and Thomas Wright)

Essex, Little Horkesley

The quotes below are from JMC4's Flickr pages (I think) - or they coud be from another source the quotes JMC4.

Sir Robert Swynborne 1397 and son Sir Thomas dsp 1412 ++,
"Here lieth Sir Robert Swynbourne, Lord of Little Horkesley, who died upon the day of St Faith in the year of grace 1391, upon whose soul may God have mercy. Here also lieth Sir Thomas Swynborne, son of the said Sir Robert, Lord of Mames, Mayor of Bordeaux and Captain of Fronsac castle, who died upon the eve of St Lawrence in the year of grace 1417, upon whose soul may God have pit and mercy. Amen, Amen"

Sir Robert bc.1327 son & heir of Thomas Swinburne (d. bef. 1332) of Gunnerton.

He succeeded to the manor on the deaths of William de Horkesley and his wife in 1332 www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/846668

More about the family of Swinburne:

He m1 Agnes daughter of Sir William Felton 1358 of Edlingham, Northumb

Children -
1. Thomas dsp1412 ++ m Elizabeth 1433 daughter of Sir Philip Limbury.1367
2. daughter

(Sir Thomas in 1412, Geoffrey a few years later, Andrew in 1418, William in 1422 and John in 1430

Sir John Gernon

He m2 Joan d1433 daughter of John son of Sir John Boutourt of Gestingthorpe and Belchamp Otton, Essex by Joan daughter of Sir John Gernoun / Gernon of Bakewell, Derbys., coheiress of her maternal grandfather

Children - 4 sons and 2 daughters
1. William dsp 1422 m Phoebe www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/gKVo7g He rebuilt the church and ordered their tomb modelled on the royal tombs in Westminster abbey.
2. Geoffrey dsp c1417
3. Andrew dsp 1418
4. John dsp 1439 ) www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/P5Q48h

1. Margery (joint heiress of her father) m Nicholas Berners
2. Alice (joint heiress to her father) m John Helion of Bumpstead Helion with a grand daughter Katherine Berners m Thomas Fynderne of Carlton d 1517 == parents of William Fyndern 1st husband of Bridget Waldegrave (parents of John Finderne 1523== ) who m2 John 2nd Lord Marnay www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/jD8Mxr

Sir Thomas c.1357-dsp1412 ++ 1st son of Sir Robert Swinburne by 1st w. Agnes daughter of Sir William Felton 1358 of Edlingham

He m Elizabeth c.1358-dsp 1433 daughter of Joan & Sir Philip Limbury.1367 of Limbury, Beds & Brant Broughton Lincs. flic.kr/p/pChetV sister & heir of Philip Limbury, widow of Sir Walter Paveley d.1379 of Boughton Aluph and Stowting, Kent, and Sir Thomas Trivet 1388 of Otterhampton, Som

After his service in France in 1392 Sir Thomas made a long tour of the middle east, leaving first for Venice, from there sailing to Alexandria, then onto Cairo and Mount Sinai, Jerusalem, Jericho, Nazareth and Damascus. On returning to France in 1404 he became Mayor of Calais and in 1405 was appointed an admiral.

Helion, Tyrell and Wentworth.

The great estates came to the heirs of 2 daughters, Margery (Swynbourne) Berners and Alice (Swynbourne) Helion; and among the descendants of both these daughters the estates continued in several generations for 90 years until 1523, when on the death of Thomas Fynderne the descendants of Margery Berners became extinct and all the Boutetourt estates went to his cousin Anne (Tyrell) Wentworth, sole surviving heiress by descent from Alice Helion, and wife of Sir Roger Wentworth, Knt.; it was sold by the last member of the family Sir John Wentworth.

Their armour marks the changing fashion between father and son. Robert (left) has a hauberk of mail reaching ot the middle of his body and over it is a tightly fitting sleeveless jupon, on his head is a pointed bascinet . His decorated belt has his initials RS Sir Thomas on the right is in plate armour, he wears the Lancastrian SS collar

The brasses were damaged by a landmine in 1940, some of the fragments being found in the next county in fields at Nayland, their original tomb destroyed www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/23o2P6

The History of Parliament:

www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member...

Wikitree and ChatGPT

Using ChatGPT the connections that I have researched seem to have been borne out.

While Wikitree is often a good source of information, I am dubious when I get quoted as being the source of that information when I have obtained pointers from other sources.

Asked about connection between John Helion and Nicholas Berners

Asking where the information came from:

Yes, there are several online genealogy websites that have family trees showing the connections between John Helion, Alice Swinburne, Margery Swinburne and Nicholas Berners. One such website is WikiTree, where you can find a profile for Joan (Botetourt) Swinburne that shows her children, including Alice and Margery .

Joan Botetourt was born around 1353 in Belchamp Walter, Essex, England. She married Sir Robert Swinburne before 13 November 1372 and they had four sons (William, Geoffrey, Andrew and John) and two daughters (Alice and Margery). Alice married John Helion and Margery married Nicholas Berners. Joan Botetourt died on 4 March 1433 in Gunnerton, Northumberland, England .

Joan Botetourt’s mother was Joan Gernon. Joan Gernon was the daughter of Walter Dalyngruge and Margaret Chamond. Joan Botetourt was therefore a member of the Gernon family through her mother.

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References:

  • John Gernon - 1308-1384 - https:// www.geni.com/people/ Sir-John-Gernon-Kt /6000000006110582727
  • Sir Robert Swynborne - https:// discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ ad0f941c-b667-472b-ae09-b1c5a2860f0e - Sir Robert Swynborne (lord of manor 1391) and son; Sir Thomas 1412, Little Horkesley, Essex 🔗 - nationalarchives
  • Sir Robert Swynborne - http:// www.historyofparliamentonline.org /volume/1386-1421/member/ swinburne-sir-thomas-1357-1412
  • Sir William Fynderne - https:// www.historyofparliamentonline.org /volume/1386-1421/member/ fynderne-william-1445
  • The visitations of Essex by Hawley, 1552; Hervey, 1558; Cooke, 1570; Raven, 1612; and Owen and Lilly, 1634. - https:// archive.org/details/visitationsofess13byumetc/page/106/mode/2up?q=belchamp
  • Sir Robert Swynborne 1397 - Little Horkesley - https:// www.flickr.com/photos/52219527@N00/ 15283094927/in/ photostream/
  • JMC4 - Photos of Church Monuments - https:// www.flickr.com/people/52219527@N00/

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