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Having made a search for "Hyllivyn" (Helion) I came across jmc4's Flickr pages

There are many links split over a number of images on jmc4's pages.
The "about" page on Flickr for jmc4 features the on use of the photographs on other website and publications. My interest is more to do with the research in the descriptions. As for the photographs I can take them for myself as this is an account of the local history of Belchamp Walter.

The photo below is of the Brygete Marnay 1549 and husbands Thomas Fynderne and John Lord Marnay 1525 memorial in Little Horkesley church.

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I have some links to the jmc4 pages on thi page.

The extensive research (I am presuming) is not (always) documented by jmc4, there are sometimes links to other photographs on jmc4's Flickr feed. This is in keeping with the new phylosophy that I am adopting in that there is no point in having links to external websites that once you are there don't allow you to get back.

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Text from JMC4's Flicker feed (Little Horkesley):

Brygete Marnay 1549 and husbands Thomas Fynderne and John Lord Marnay 1525

Bridget was the daughter of Sir William Waldegrave of Smallbridge and Margery daughter of Sir Henry Wentworth of Codham Hall Wethersfield 1482 by Elizabeth flic.kr/p/abFYz8 daughter of Henry Howard of Teringhampton

She was the sister of George Waldegrave 1528 flic.kr/p/abvwJv

She m1 Sir Thomas Findern of Little Horkesley d 1517 son of William Findern of Thornton by Catherine Berners daughter of Nicholas Berners 1441 by Marjorie Swinbourne daughter of Sir Robert Swinbourne 1397 www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/C2ZBL0

Having no children, Thomas was succeeded by his cousin Anne Tyrrell wife of Roger Wentworth

She m2 John 2nd Lord Marnay d 1525 son of Henry Marney, 1st Baron Marny by Thomasin daughter of Sir John Arundell of Lanherne, Cornwall. Widower of Christian d1517 daughter of Sir Roger Newburgh of East Lulworth, Dorset

The original brass was badly damaged by the landmine bomb parachuted down in September 1940 destroying the church. . Some of the fragments were found in the next county in fields at Nayland.

On being reassembled it was discovered that the Marney brass was partly palimpsest On the back was part of a c1490 shrouded woman approx. 5 feet long www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/rXK249 www.flickr.com/gp/52219527@N00/3i5Lu0

++ Will of 16th September 1549. "My body to be buried at the end of the high altar in the chancel of the parish church of LIttle Horkesey, where I will that a vault of brick be made so large that one body may be conveniently laid therein: and I will that over it be set a tomb more than half the length of the tomb wherein Dame Katherine Finderne lither buried and upon the same that there be put 3 pictures of brass , one of myself, without any coat armour, and upon my right side the picture of the Lord Marney my last husband in his coat armour; and upon my left side the picture of my husband Finderne in his coat armour; and at the head or feet a a scripture of brass to show the time of my decease, what stock I was of, and to what men of worship I was married. Also I will that there shall be sung by note such service as is set out and appointed by the Kings book to be used at burials, with so many priests and clerks as my executors shall think convenient, every priest to have xlld and every clerk being a man helping to sing, lvd"

++Her request that no coat of arms be placed above her was ignored and it was not until 400 years later that Hitler granted her wish. The missing shield has never been found.

This facsimile of this famous brass was commissioned by Mr and Mrs Gerald Charrington for the chapel at Layer Marner in 2003 and a second copy was produced and present to Little Horkesley.

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References:

  • JMC4 - Photos of Church Monuments - https:// www.flickr.com /people/ 52219527@N00/
  • William and Robert de Horkesley - https:// www.flickr.com /gp/52219527@N00/ 846668 - Sir Robert de Horkesley 1296, eldest son Sir William de Horkesley 1332, and his wife Emma 1333.
  • Sir John Marney - http:// www.historyofparliamentonline.org /volume/1509-1558/member/ marney-sir-john-1485-1525
  • WALDEGRAVE, Sir William (c.1573-1613) - http:// www.historyofparliamentonline.org /volume/1558-1603/member/ waldegrave-sir-william-1573-1613
  • Brygete Marnay 1549 and husbands Thomas Fynderne and John Lord Marnay 1525 - https:// www.flickr.com /photos/52219527@N00/ 15476063032/in/photostream - jmc4 - Church Explorer on flickr.com

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