13th Century Essex/Suffolk
Lady Marney - horkesley connections - Companions to the Conqueror
info from MyHertiage.com:
William Mountcheney, de Monte Caniso was born in 1230, in birth place (ie not known.
William married Beatrice De Fitz Otes (born Beauchamp). Beatrice was born in 1243, in birth place. They had 2 children: Maud Botetourt (born Fitz Thomas) and one other child.
William passed away in 1302, at age 72.
This confirms the connection suggested by Thomas Wright in the marriage to Beatrice de Beauchamp and the daughter who became Maud de Botetourt.
I have a bit of a problem here with the references that I had found before this update. The MyHeritage reference needs to be taken pretty much with a pinch of salt (along with other links found there). The Geni links seem to be transient.
There are some other wikitree.com references that I have yet to follow.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mountcheney-3 - William (Mountcheney) Munchensy (abt. 1280 - bef. 1320)
I formerly had a statement about the "companion of the Conqueror" (and a link!) - that seems to have changed.
William Montchensy, of Edwardstown - 1230 - 1302
William Montchensy is a name, or the family of Montchensy, that is
known locally to Belchamp Walter.
There is (was) a dispute amongst Medieval historians about whether he was a
"Companion to William the Conqueror".
Never-the-less the family name is mentioned by Thomas Wright as being associated with other families in the Thirteen Century and the History of Belchamp Walter. There are various dates given to William Montchensy and they range from before Conquest (1040-1066) to 1230.
A marriage to Beatrice (Beauchamp) de Munchensy (1243 - 1285) also can be found on Wikitree.
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Thomas Wright said:
"
Maud, the eldest daughter of William de Beauchamp, was married to
Roger de Mowbray.
Beatrix became the wife of Thomas Fitz-Otho, and, on his death, was married
to William Montchensy, of Edwardstown.
Ella, the youngest of these sisters, was married to Baldwin Wake, to whom she bore Ida, married to
John de Steyngreve,
Elizabeth, the wife of John de Horbiry; and Joan, married to Michael Picket.
"
There seem to be many different spellings here. See the pages for de Vere, de Manderville and de Beauchamp, plus others.
The name of William de Montecanyso of Edwardstone comes up in many of the references that
I have found. This could possibly
be the corrct name as the Montchensey leads to a "companion of William the Conqueror. Like so many descriptions of the same
sort this only seems to feed the obsession with being associated with William.
This page is part of an on-going research project on the history of Belchamp Walter and
the manor of Belchamp Walter.
If you have found it making a web search looking for geneological or other information on the village then please bookmark this page and return
often as I am likely to make regular updates. If you delve deeper into this website you will find many other pages similar
to this one.
Beatrix de Beauchamp
Beatrix de Beauchamp was the daugther of William de Beauchamp.
The connection to Belchamp Walter with Montchensy and Botetort is that Beatrice (Beatrix) de Beauchamp was first married to Thomas fitz Otho and their daughter Matilda (Maud) married John de Botetourt. Beatrix married William Montchensy after Thomas fitz Otho's death (about 1280).
William Montchensy would have had some influence on the manor at Belchamp Walter as Maud, his step daughter was, only 21 when she married John de Botetourt in 1302.
William was Maud de Botetourt's step father. William married Beatrix fitz Otho and Maud was their daughter.
The fitz Otho coat of arms
Both the de Beauchamp and fitz Otho coats of arms feature on the chantry arch of the chapel in Belchamp Walter. William Montchensy "held" a number of estates around 1300, Belchamp Walter could have been one. This does not mean that he lived here and the presence of the de Beauchamp arms also just means that there was a family connection. The Nave of St.Mary's also had noit been built at this time.
The fact that there is no Montchensy arms featuring on the chapel further adds to the notion that the chapel was built after the death of the first Lord Botetourt. His son, Thomas de Botetourt, is more likely to have had the Nave of the church erected and the chapel is in memory of his son, the 2nd Lord Botetourt.
From myheritage.com:
William de Monte Caniso was the father of:
Thomas, born 1317;[1]
William died on or before 17 April 1320 [13 Edward II], as on that day a writ was issued
regarding William de Monte Caniso, and at an Inquisition taken in Suffolk that same year,
the jury found that William held the manors of Edwardston, Lelseye and Bradefeld Sencler
in Suffolk, and Thomas his son, aged 3, was his next heir.[1]
According to Douglas Richardson's Royal Ancestry, V, under WALDEGRAVE (p.292)
William died shortly before 16 November 1318.
Sources
1.0 1.1 1.2 The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem
and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, Vol VI Edward II,
(Hereford: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1910),
accessed 2 November 2014,
https:// archive.org/stream/ calendarofinquis06grea#page/138/ mode/2up pp.139.
Abstract No 234 William de Monte Caniso.
Edwardstone, Suffolk
Apart from the Church of St. Mary the Virgin there is not much evidence of Edwardstone's History.
There must have been a manor house but apart from a gate house, which was probably from a later period, there are a few listed
buildings in the Boxford, Suffolk region. (see Wikipedia)
The author viewed with a possible intention to purchase, Seasons, Round Maple. (see Wikipedia for reference)
The name "Edwardstone" means 'Eadweard's farm/settlement'.[3] Edwardstone was listed in the Domesday Book as
Eduardestuna.
[4] Edwardstone Priory was a priory in Priory Green and was founded by Peter,
Bishop of Winchester during the reign of King John.......
[3] - "Edwardstone Key to English Place-names". The University of Nottingham. Retrieved 25 August 2020.
[4] - "DocumentsOnline | Image Details". The National Archives. Retrieved 14 February 2011
Companion to William the Conqueror
The reference from Thomas Wright's account of the history of Essex has had some of the links to other names that
I have pages.
