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Magna Carta and the Barons wars

Magna Carta was signed in the "First 200 years" of Belchamp Walter History.

Using Thomas Wright's History and Toppology of Essex as a starting point for the history of Belchamp Walter there seems to be little mention of Magna Carta. However, the "players" in the Barons wars do have some connection to the area. Wright was not particularly helpful in the understanding of this period.

Barons Wars

Geoffrey FitzGeoffrey de Mandeville, 2nd Earl of Essex - son of Geoffrey de Mandeville, 2nd Earl of Essex (Need to check this)

William de Beauchamp of Bedford - a Magna Carta Baron

" de Beauchamp took part in the 1210 expedition to Ireland and the 1214 expedition to Poitiers before joining the rebellious barons in 1215 at the beginning of the First Barons' War, entertaining them at his seat of Bedford Castle; as such, de Beauchamp was one of the rebels excommunicated by Pope Innocent III.

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de Clare

There were two de Clare Barons in the Council of 25 Barons that were appointed under clause 61 to monitor King John's future conduct. Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford was another Baron

The Demese Lord for Belchamp Walter was supposedly Aubrey de Vere and the villages of Clare (the home of the de Clare's), Castle Hedingham (the home of the de Vere's) are both neighbouring villages.

Wikipedia

" Magna Carta Libertatum (Medieval Latin for "Great Charter of Freedoms"), commonly called Magna Carta (also Magna Charta; "Great Charter"), is a royal charter of rights agreed to by King John of England at Runnymede, near Windsor, on 15 June 1215. "

List of Barons

The Barons from the Belchamp Walter area in 1215 were the de Veres and the de Clares

  1. William de Forz, 3rd Earl of Albemarle
  2. William de Beauchamp (died 1260) - the de Beuachamp family
  3. William d'Aubigny (rebel)
  4. Geoffrey FitzGeoffrey de Mandeville, 2nd Earl of Essex - Earls of Essex
  5. John FitzRobert
  6. Robert Fitzwalter
  7. Gilbert de Clare, 5th Earl of Gloucester - The de Clare family
  8. William Hardell
  9. Henry de Bohun, 1st Earl of Hereford
  10. Richard de Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford - The de Clare Family
  11. William of Huntingfield
  12. William de Lanvallei
  13. John de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln
  14. William Malet (Magna Carta baron) - The Malet family
  15. Roger de Montbegon
  16. Richard de Montfichet
  17. William de Mowbray - The de Mowbray Family
  18. Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk
  19. Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk
  20. Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford
  21. William Marshal, 2nd Earl of Pembroke
  22. Richard de Percy
  23. Robert de Ros (died 1227)
  24. Geoffrey de Saye II
  25. Eustace de Vesci
  26. Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester

The Harvard Copy

May 2025 - A news item where a copy of Magna Carta that was sold to Harvard University in 1946 that was not thought to be of much importance now turns out that it is.

The presentation was by Professor David Carpenter of Oxford University who is a renown author on the subject of Magna Carta. Below is the description from the Amazon listing for Magna Carta by Carpenter, David (David A.)

Magna Carta, forced on King John in 1215 by rebellion, is one of the most famous documents in world history. It asserts a fundamental principle: that the ruler is subject to the law. Alongside a new text and translation of the Charter, David Carpenter's commentary draws on new discoveries to give an entirely fresh account of Magna Carta's text, origins, survival and enforcement, showing how it quickly gained a central place in English political life. It also uses Magna Carta as a lens through which to view thirteenth-century society, focusing on women and peasants as well as barons and knights.
The book is a landmark in Magna Carta studies.

The copy was aquired by Harvard from a Sotheby's auchion. The inventory of aquisitions at Harvard records this as the Property of Air Vice Marshall Forster Herbert Martin Maynard and the date of 1327.

1297 Version of Magna Carta - Edward I

There is a copy (an original document not a copy of the 1215 Magna) of a Magna Carta in the National Archives that is dated 1297. It is a version that was drawn up to curtail Edward I and his attempts to raise money for his battles.

Magna Carta remained a document of real importance throughout the thirteenth century, as a totem of the liberty of the subject from arbitrary kingship and of the rule of law.

King Edward I was a much more successful warrior king than his grandfather, King John. But Edward’s desire to subdue rebellions in Wales, Scotland and Gascony had imposed severe financial demands on his subjects.

In 1297, when Edward tried to raise money to campaign in Gascony and Flanders, some of his leading noblemen refused to cooperate. In return for a tax grant, Edward of Caernarfon, his teenage son, acting for his father, agreed to regrant Magna Carta and to take taxes only by consent.

The 1297 Magna Carta is the version which was placed onto the Statute Book.

If there are 14th century versions of Magna Carta, i.e. 1327, then I guess that this is possible.

The 1327 date would correspond to the end of Edward II reign

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References:

  • Magna Carta - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Magna_Carta
  • Lists of participants in 1215 - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Magna_Carta#Lists_of_participants_in_1215 - de Vere, Bigod, de Mowbray ......... de Clare
  • Aubrey de Vere II - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Aubrey_de_Vere_II
  • Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Vere ,_3rd_Earl_of_Oxford
  • William de Beauchamp (1185) - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Beauchamp_(1185)
  • Magna Carta Barons - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Magna_Carta_barons
  • Geoffrey FitzGeoffrey de Mandeville, 2nd Earl of Essex - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Geoffrey_FitzGeoffrey_de_Mandeville ,_2nd_Earl_of_Essex
  • Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Geoffrey_de_Mandeville,_Earl_of_Essex
  • First Barons' War - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ First_Barons%27_War - (1215–1217)
  • Second Barons' War - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Second_Barons%27_War - (1264–1267)
  • Cut-price Magna Carta 'copy' now believed genuine - https:// www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ cm23zjknre7o - discovery by Prof David Carpenter from King's College London when analysing digitzed copy
  • Air Vice Marshal Forster Herbert Martin "Sammy" Maynard, CB, AFC - https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._H._Maynard
  • Magna Carta by Carpenter, David (David A.) - https://archive.org/details/magnacarta0000carp/page/n3/mode/2up
  • Magna Carta by Carpenter, David (David A.) - https:// www.amazon.co.uk/ Magna-Carta-Penguin-Classics-Carpenter/dp/0241953375/ref=sr_1_1

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