19th Century geneology on demand - The Marquis of Ruvigny and Raineval
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This reference was found when I was trying to fill in some of the background on the Raymonds, the Percys and back to Edward III.
I found a copy of The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal by The Marquis of Ruvigny and Raineval, Melville Henry Massue when I searched for Samuel Millbank Raymond. That copy seems to have been moved but I did find another copy the was commissioned by another "aristocrat" that wanted to show that he was related to royalty.
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The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal - 1890's 1900
The Marquis of Ruvigny and Raineval, Melville Henry Massue, is credited with the creation of a
number of sources relating to Jacobite Royal Blood and the creation of Peerages, Baronetage and Knightage.
The result of the creation of these documents is that many geneological research documents will often refer to them.
It also appears that "personalised" versions of these "Family Trees" are found in archives.
So far I have found two such archives.
Those tracing their "Royal Heritage" seem to refer to one of the many copies of these "rolls".
This seems to be particularly the case towards the end of the 19th Century.
There is a note on the Roll that it was limited to five hundred and twenty copies.
There is a copy of "The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal: : The Mortimer-Percy Volume" on this website.
I am not sure if it is the same copy that I took the family tree of the Raymond family.
It was found on the Internet Archive.
The copy appears to have been "personalised" in the name of Arthur William Vaisey, Esq.
I get the impression that this was a limited copy run of the book that was avialable the those that wanted a personalised version for their own family. This edition contain a Table Showing The Descent Of Arthur William Vaisey, Esq. From Edward III., King Of England - I can't the reference to Samuel Milbank Raymond but this could be in volume II.
I am not sure who Arthur William Vaisey, Esq. was and he is not related to the history of Belchamp Walter.
The entries for the Raymonds do appear.
Samuel Millbank Raymond
Samuel Millbank, known as "Squire" of Belchamp Walter, suceeded Samuel Junior in 1825/26 and died in 1863.
Samuel John St.Clere Raymond suceeded Samuel Millbank and later became the vicar of St. Mary's Belchamp Walter.
The estate and lordship at this time was held by Thomas Ruggles until 1865.
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Samuel John St.Clere Raymond was Samuel Philips Father and John Mayne St. Clere Raymond's son -
Samuel Milbank's Grandson.
Suffolk Free Press April 11th. 1900
The death of Mr.Samuel J. ST. Clere Raymond of Belchamp Walter at the early age of 40 years has been reported after a
severe illness lasting 20 weeks. He had only succeeded to the family property for six years. The bulk of the collection of art at Belchamp Hall was disposed of some years ago. At the Hall were to be seen some reliques taken out of the ships of the Spanish Armada, an ancestor of the family commanded a small vessel of the English Fleet.
The fortunes of the family has been greatly affected by great depression in agriculture.
While it is true that many of the Spanish ships were wrecked on their flight around the North of Scotland I am not sure that there were many that were engaged in battle, overcome and raided for their treasures. The Spanish were pretty sure that their invasion would succeed and could have been laden with treasures for the victors to establish themselves in England, but I find this unlikely.
Suffolk Free Press April 3rd. 1901
The late Mr, S.J.ST.Clere Raymond of Belchamp Hall who died recently, has left his estate to the family.
The estate has been valued at £20,000 gross.
The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal Clarence and Exeter Volume
The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal, Clarence and Exeter volumes, is a comprehensive genealogical work that details the descendants of Edward III, King of England. The Clarence Volume and the Exeter Volume are part of this extensive collection, which includes various volumes such as the Mortimer-Percy Volume, Clarence Volume, Exeter Volume, and Essex Volume.
These volumes are published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. and are available in hardcover and paperback formats. The Clarence Volume specifically focuses on the descendants of George, Duke of Clarence, while the Exeter Volume details the descendants of Anne, Duchess of Exeter.
The volumes are available for purchase through various online platforms, including AbeBooks and fmg.ac, and are often found in good condition with clean unmarked text.
Jacobite peerage
An authoritative list of the Jacobite peerage does not exist. The standard source relied on is The Jacobite Peerage, Baronetage, Knightage and Grants of Honour published in 1904 by Melville Henry Massue, who called himself 'Marquis de Ruvigny et Raineval'.[1][2] However, as a source, it is unreliable. Peter Drummond-Murray of Mastrick noted in an article in Burke's Peerage that:
[Ruvigny's] own pedigree was false, as was his claim to the French titles he used. This lack of integrity, unhappily, destroys much of the authority of one who was a gifted, if eccentric, genealogist. Much work still needs to be done on the Jacobite peerages, baronetcies, knighthoods and Lettres de Noblesse.[3]
